See This Professional Climber’s Harsh Words for Trump’s Border Wall

"A good pro can probably do it in a few hours, easy."

See This Professional Climber’s Harsh Words for Trump’s Border Wall

"A good pro can probably do it in a few hours, easy."

On Tuesday, President Donald Trump went to California to visit a few prototypes of the 30-foot tall, $10 billion wall that he plans to build on the border between Mexico and the United States.

He noted that “we’re looking very much at the wall with some see- through capability on the other side and solid concrete on top or steel and concrete on top.”

His main concern, it seems, is that undocumented immigrants would be able to scale the wall:

“These are like professional mountain climbers—they’re incredible climbers. They can’t climb some of these walls. Some of them, they can. Those are the walls we’re not using. We’ve determined—you guys have done a fantastic job. We’ve determined what to do. This way when we build were not saying, oh gee, I wish we did it a different way. But if you didn’t have it you would have a tremendous problem. Even the walls they have now, they’re not holding out. They’re not holding up. They’re small but really great compared to what they had before. Stopped about 95 percent.”

In response to this comment, Esquire interviewed veteran world-class climber and bestselling author Ed Viesturs—the only American to have climbed all fourteen of the world’s 8,000-meter peaks, including Mount Everest—for his thoughts on the efficacy of the wall at stopping people who will try to climb over it.

“A good professional mountain climber can probably do it in a few hours, easy,” said Viesters.

He also described one of the easier ways that amateur climbers could, in theory, render the wall ineffective.

“I mean, you could put a whole bunch of ladder sections together, flop it up and over and put down a rope and drop down to the other side,” he said.

So there you have it.

And his comments seem to echo those of David Shirk, an associate professor of political science and international relations at the University of San Diego. “Physical barriers are one measure to which there’s always a countermeasure,” he told the Voice of San Diego. “You build a 20-foot wall, they’ll build a 21-foot ladder. That’s been the consistent cat-and-mouse game that we’ve seen played historically as long as we’ve tried to enforce our prohibitive measures, whether it’s drugs or immigration at the border.”

For more words of wisdom from America’s greatest climbers, check out Meet the Woman Who Is Conquering the World’s Toughest Climbs—Photos.

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